Secrets to Healthy Living | Renu Agrawal, Holistic Health Coach | Podcast 009 | Coffee & Cards Conversation 036

The secret to living a healthier lifestyle is really not a secret. It’s just knowing where to find the answers.

Renu Agrawal says it’s about knowing yourself.  A Holistic Health Coach based in Magnolia, Texas, Renu received her training from the Institute for Integrative Nutrition.  She guides her clients into better health and wellness by identifying food, exercise and relationship blocks.

Let the Energy Flow

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Renu also integrates energy healing into her coaching sessions. According to ancient tradition, Prana, the sanskrit word for “life force,” regulates your blood flow and breathing. Pranic Healing and Reiki are two methods to direct the body’s energy towards self-healing. Renu is trained in both forms of energy healing.

When asked what she wishes Western people knew about Eastern healing, her simple answer:

“knowing yourself better, helps.”

Connect with Renu Agrawal

30-Day Gratitude Challenge

30 Day Gratitude Challenge

The challenge is to express gratitude to at least 1 person a day, anywhere in the world, for any reason, for 30 consecutive days by sending a real greeting card with a heartfelt message using the SendOutCards system. It is guaranteed to change your life.

Get Your Gratitude Geek

“I Made Dave Ramsey Cry” | Deanna Ooley Shares How She Eradicated $50,000 of Credit Card Debt | Podcast #007 | Coffee & Cards Conversation #035

Deanna Ooley, Personal Finance Management, is a Dave Ramsey Certified Counselor and winner of the 2012 Outstanding Financial Peace Coordinator of the Year award.  She shares some practical advice for eradicating debt.   It’s easier than you think.


“I Made Dave Ramsey Cry”

Dave Ramsey and Deanna Ooley, 2012 Outstanding Financial Peace Coordinator of the Year

Dave Ramsey and Deanna Ooley, 2012 Outstanding Financial Peace Coordinator of the Year

Deanna found Dave Ramsey my chance.   Following his 7 Step Financial Peace program, she eliminated $50,000 of personal credit card debt and is now 100% debt free.  She also found peace, in another way.   After sharing her story with Dave Ramsey on stage, tears were streaming down his face.  Play the podcast above to hear the story!

The One Thing You Must Do to Get Out of Debt

The first step to getting out of debt is to figure out how much you owe. You can’t do that, unless you write it down. The same can be said for goals and groceries. A goal is just a dream until you write it down.

Have you ever been to the grocery store without a list?

Yea, we all know how that goes.

Write it down!

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Deanna & Kandas

Deanna & Kandas

Get Your Gratitude Geek On

Be sure to tune in every Wednesday to the Gratitude Geek Podcast.

Coffee & Cards Conversations are filmed on location at Conroe Coffee and produced by Shane Rodarte.

Music by Brock Rodarte.

Kimberly DeVos Explains What You Need to Know Before Signing a Commercial Lease | Coffee & Cards Conversation #34

Kimberly Devos, Commercial Real Estate Broker with Cypressbrook Company in The Woodlands, Texas, explains what every new business owner needs to know before signing their first commercial lease.



Kim DeVos

Kim DeVos

Location, Location, Location

In his book, Rich Dad Poor Dad, Robert Kiyosaki asserts the importance of location but recounting his poor Dad’s foray into entrepreuneurism.  Poor Dad opened an ice cream parlor in Hawaii.  Seems like a good idea, but he set up shop away from the tourist areas and quickly failed.  Location, location, location.

Safety Dance

Kim and I rocking out to Safety Dance did not make the final cut.  Too bad, so sad.  If you are aching to hear the iconic song by Men Without Hats, I recommend downloading the Safety Dance Club Mix.

Greeting Cards & Gifts


Live, Laugh, Love Journal and Journaling Cards from SendOutCards

Kim is also an independent Marketing Distributor with SendOutCards.   You can visit her greeting card and gift website to check out the amazing selection of gifts including flowers, chocolate covered strawberries and the “Live, Laugh, Love Journal and Journaling Cards” we featured in the video.

Connect with Kimberly DeVos


Coffee & Croissants

Be sure to tune in every Wednesday to the Gratitude Geek Podcast.

Coffee & Cards Conversations are filmed on location at Conroe Coffee and produced by Shane Rodarte.  Music by Brock Rodarte.

3 Mistakes People Make When Following Up with Pamela McCown, DTM | Coffee & Cards Conversation #33

“What gets scheduled gets done.” – Pamela McCown

Pamela McCown is a Distinguished Toastmaster and Past International Director for Toastmasters International.  She is the first person who comes to mind when I think about organization and follow up.   In this Coffee & Cards Conversation, she share the top 3 mistakes people make when following up and how to fix them.



Pamela McCown Coffee and Cards #33

Kiss the Alarm Clock

I explain the elements of a great birthday card.  You know, you can send amazing birthday cards with SendOutCards.

Pamela answers these questions:

  1. You are well known for being an ambassador for Toastmasters International, tell us how you became a Toastmaster and something you’ve learned about yourself along the leadership journey.
  2.  Beyond Toastmasters, I know that you are working on a project called “KISS THE ALARM CLOCK.”  Tell us about it.
  3.  A statement we have heard you make is: “WHAT GETS SCHEDULED GETS DONE.”   How do you keep your schedule from becoming overloaded?

 Connect with Pamela McCown

Pamela can be found online at  and

Be sure to tune in every Wednesday to the Gratitude Geek Podcast.

Coffee & Cards Conversations are filmed on location at Conroe Coffee in historic downtown Conroe, Texas.

Music by Brock Rodarte.

Produced by Shane Rodarte.

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“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

This week’s “Coffee & Cards Conversation with Gratitude Geek” features 5 savvy business women from The Woodlands and Conroe, Texas. We chat about setting SMARTer goals in health and business, plus one simple thing you can do that will make you instantly look 5 years younger. It’s all good stuff, so watch.


“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.” – Dr. Seuss

Connect with the Coffee & Cards Conversationalists:

The Kindness Jar is available from SendOutCards gift store. For a free trial of this powerful online greeting card and gifting system call 936-718-7099 or visit my SendOutCards website and click “Send A Card.”

Interested in having a Coffee & Cards Conversation with Kandas?  Leave a comment below.

“Don’t frown because your smile is what lighten up the world.”

V024 Tanya Lavoie Grows Real Estate Business with Greeting Cards

In this Coffee and Cards Conversation with Tanya Lavoie of Gary Green Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate we share tips on how you can grow your real estate business with greeting cards.



IMG_0801 Kandas:  Kandas Rodarte of sitting here with Tanya Lavoie of Gary Green Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate. And we’re going to talk a little bit today about how greeting cards can help you grow real estate business. But before I do that, I want to share with you some of the cards that I received this week, it is the week before Christmas. This is a lovely card, that’s a 2-panel card that costs $0.62. This is a great card from a real estate agent that we both know who’s commercial, and it’s a picture of her and her husband and a beautiful template. This card was only $0.93. Here’s another beautiful card with a picture; a $0.93 card. This is the card that my husband created for our holiday card.

Tanya: I love it!

Kandas: It’s a caricature that he drew and our daughter colored and inside we had a picture of ourselves being silly and a little bit of a story. This card was just $0.93 plus postage. The other exciting thing that I receive in the mail this week is this Greeting Card Revolution t-shirt! It came in this beautiful box from the company that I work with and it just means that I have decided to get paid to be nice and join the Greeting Card Revolution. Fun, huh? So let’s talk about what you do.

Tanya: Well, I’m a real estate agent here in the Montgomery County area and Harris County, too. I’ve here, now, 3 years – love the area and my job and my clients and my friends. All is good.

Kandas: Why did you choose real estate?

Tanya: I chose real estate in the beginning because I thought it would give me a “mom-schedule.” I had two young children and I thought, “Oh, this will give me a good mommy schedule,” but I’m not sure that’s the case, but it is flexible.

Kandas: You can work your own hours.

Tanya: Yeah, I can work my own hours and decide just how busy I want to be.

Kandas: Somebody asked me recently how I can do all the things I can do and I said “Because I enjoy everything that I do and I don’t do anything unless I’m having fun.”

Tonya Lavoie B 96dpiTanya: Right. Exactly and I do love what I do and really it’s just helping people and that’s one of the things about me. What I like to do is help people and that’s what real estate is.

Kandas: That’s a very good business tip, by the way. Pick a business that you have so much fun doing that it’s not work. So tell me… I know the story, but I think the audience needs to know about what you did for ten years of your life when you were very young.

Tanya: I lived on a sail boat and sailed around the world and raised babies and —

Kandas: You raised babies on a sail boat?

Tanya: Yes I did. I varnished and that’s how I supported myself and my husband–

Kandas: Varnishing boats?

Tanya: Varnishing their boats, yes. Mine was like the template. so when we would go into port and go to a marina, people would say “Oh my gosh! your boat is beautiful!” “I can do that for you.” That was quite as long time ago, I got paid $15/hour to make their boats look pretty.

Kandas: Wow! And then after you lived on a sail boat for ten years you did something else that’s pretty remarkable.

Tanya: okay, I didn’t know you were going to put me on the spot. I got my pilots license and my commercial license. I ran a flight school at an airport in Maine. My husband ran the maintenance department. That was really cool, too. I loved that. Again, my passion during that time was helping the teenagers. We’d give them free half hour lesson and the teenagers would come and fly.

Kandas: I wish you were still an instructor.

Tanya: That would be so cool.

Kandas: That’s total bucket list right there: Learning to fly. And, it would be really cool learning to fly from you.

Tanya: Okay.

Kandas: Because that means you’re a good instructor.

Tanya: Well, it’s been a long time, but thank you for the compliment.

Kandas: Wow! Okay, so, I was listening to a training tape…I don’t even think I remember what I was listening to because I listen to so much on audio while I’m working, but Jim Rohn said that people are not trees and that we were meant to move, not just stand still, not to be rooted — and people get rooted so easily. I know that one of the things that you do is that you help your clients relocate.

Tanya: Correct.

Kandas: So tell me about some of the services that you offer to people who are relocating.

Tanya: Okay, so when they’re moving here and they don’t know, they’ve never been to Houston, or the Woodlands, or Magnolia, or Conroe, or whatever it is, the first thing I do is I find out what they’re family is. You know, kids? Are they coming with elderly parents? What do they need? What do their kids do? What do they swim? Do they play football? All those kinds of things… Any special needs that they might have… Then I put together a relocation packet that’s specific to that family…

IMG_0799Kandas: Wow. That’s remarkable.

Tanya: So that they can then walk in and talk to this coach, or go get their nails done here, or whatever it might be from simple to really complex. It might be they need home health care for their elderly parent… so, all of that goes into a packet.

Kandas: Wow. That’s called appreciation marketing, relationship marketing. When you work with a client based on their individual needs and you really put a lot of focus onto what they need, and being kind to them, and showing them that you’re grateful for their business, and extraordinary ways. Something –I know that you can’t do, because unless I missed something, you’re not an ordained minister.

Tanya: No.

Kandas: But when we bought our first and our second home, we used a real estate agent who was an older man, very kind and he was also an ordained minister and he knew that we were planning our wedding. We bought our house and we were planning to get married three months later. So, he offered to be our minister (free-of-charge) at our wedding.

Tanya: Really cool.

Kandas: Now, not every real estate agent can offer that extra service, but just going above and beyond makes all the difference in the world and you better believe that every single referral that we ever got or we every had for real estate went to him after that. he’s no longer with us. He passed away a few years ago.

Tanya: Okay, well that’s sad, but now I can be your real estate agent.

Kandas: You do get my referrals.

Tanya: I know, I do. Thank you and I’m very grateful.

Kandas: I remember I sent you a referral for six houses. Something like that – something outrageous.

Tanya: Yes, you did.

Kandas: Okay, so speaking of real estate and how to market it. Tell me about your greeting card story. How did you use a greeting card to get more business?

Tanya: Well, really that boils down to you. You sent me a couple of example. Well, you cards you sent me just for me are awesome and I’m very impressed with them. “Oh my gosh! This is so cool.” Then, obviously we’ve talked and you’ve shown me some samples and I’ve used them and they’ve worked. Like the “For sale by Owner” campaign, it was a listing that I got through Send Out Cards. Just sending them once a week, something that would help them with their home, and giving them some tips, after the third card I got a phone call.

Kandas: So, once a week you sent them a card with tips to help them sell their homes?

Tanya: Correct.

Kandas: And they were just a “for sale by owner” listing that you saw?

Tanya: Just driving by a neighborhood.

Kandas: That’s really good.

Tanya: It’s is awesome and I’m very thankful for you because actually, it was your idea.

Kandas: Really? It was?

Tanya: Send Out Cards was really… My clients like it. I get compliments all the time because I can make it specific to them – a picture of their home and picture of their family, versus just going to the store and buying a generic card. That’s just making it personal.

Kandas: So, very recently, you decided to add greeting cards and gifts as another income stream. Talk to me about that.

Tanya: Well, I discovered that I can actually give it to my clients so that when they close, when they move into a home, I can give them a set of cards that are change of addresses and things that take it to the next level. So, I’ve just taken it to the next level and hopefully that will –I haven’t done it yet, but that’ll be my very next client that will have a stack of cards for change of address. I’m really looking forward to that.

Kandas: Awesome! I love this concept of showing appreciation from all aspects of the sale. So the real estate agent, the mortgage broker, the handyman, the..

Tanya: home inspector…

Kandas: pressure washer, the home inspector, the air conditioning dude, anybody who had anything to do with the sale of the home sends a thank you card to the buyer and the seller. And that that team just became the super team and everybody who ever talks about wanting to buy a home suddenly says “I know who you should talk to because she has a terrific team!”

Tanya: Yup.

Kandas: Appreciation is the best advertisement you can do.

Tanya: Absolutely. Yup.

Kandas: Well this has been really fun. I do want to pitch myself one more time.

Tanya: Okay, go.

kandas-cardsKandas: On January 25th, I am giving a public speaking workshop at the Power Pink Studio here in Conroe. It’s from 9AM until noon on January 25th and I will teach you the trick that I use to wow the CEO of the company that I worked for when I was just 23 years old and I became his go to person in that department. I was just 23 years old and I had the ear of a CEO of a major corporation. So that is January 25, it’s called “On Target Speaking: Breaking the Ice” You can register on my website Thanks for chatting today with me Tanya.

Tanya: Thank you for having me.

Kandas: Kandas Rodarte,

V023 Joy Brasington Builds Rapport with Greeting Cards and Gifts

“I’m kind of a connector type person. I love to help people connect with others… and this is a perfect tool for that.” – Joy Brasington,

We’ve all heard  the “know, like and trust” factor (a.k.a rapport)  is the key to growing your business.   Joy Brasington shares some great tips for building rapport with clients using greeting cards and gifts.


Transcript (verbatim)

Joy and KandasKandas:   Let’s talk about how a greeting card system can help business owners.

Joy:  When I saw this system back a year and a half ago … I was sent a card by a lady at a networking event … I had never seen these cards. She talked about a conversation we had at the event. She included a picture of herself, so I remembered who she was, and I was so impressed with that card when I saw it. I picked up the phone, called her and we chatted. I asked her about the card and she then connected me with you; and that was a great day … for both of us. We’ve been close friends ever since basically.

It also impacted the doctor that I work for. He saw the card and was very impressed by it, and by the system; cause he saw where he could still stay in with his patients but it wouldn’t take up a lot of his staffs’ time of sending… handwriting birthday cards … Where we could log on … The staff there at his office could log on, select a card, send the birthday card to the patient. The patient would actually receive a paper card in the mail from him…and you know a thinking of you card a get well soon card … or whatever… thank you for the referral. We send out a lot of those type of cards to. So he saw the value in these cards, and I after seeing that and his reaction I immediately thought this is a great business; and this is the sort of thing I want to be a part of… I’m kind of a connector type person. I love to help people connect with others… and this is a perfect tool for that.

Kandas: And you know you grow a business when people know, like and trust you…

Joy: – Absolutely –

Kandas: – and they get to know you through these cards… And the get to like you because they know you remember them… And they start to trust you as they see you are a person of character and quality.

Joy: – and that you listen to them. That’s another key aspect. That’s like that lady mentioned something from our conversation … and so I knew she listened. She remembered something from our conversation…and it’s the same thing with the doctor you know. He can tune in to what’s going on in his patients’ lives…or any business owner can do that … as you’re out making calls or talking to customers on the phone, you can sit there right after the conversation, hang up and just follow up with a nice heart-felt card… And it will really impact your business in such a positive way.

Kandas: – And really these cards don’t have to be very long –

Joy: – No –

Kandas: – 2 or 3 sentences that remind them of who you are…including that photo of yourself so they remember who you are…if they never met you and see your face and go… ohhh! That’s what she looks like.

Joy: – And sometimes when you are at events and people meet so many different people, and they’re handed so many different business cards. It gets lost in the shuffle. A few days later they go to their mailbox, pull out a card, and your picture is in there, doesn’t have to be big. You know a small picture and a little note from you is in there, it will definitely bring about…oh yeah… and uhm so later on when you see them again or you make an appointment they are much more apt to uh follow up…with that appointment.

Kandas: – And that’s so important because a lot of times you go to these networking events and you connect with somebody. But then you … yourself never remember to get back in touch with them.

Joy: – yes –

Kandas: – And the best way that someone that you want to purchase from … for you to remember that person, is for them to remind you who they are. So if you’re going out there networking and you’re not following up, you’re not sending out it was nice to meet you card with your photo. You may be missing…you might be losing money, or opportunities…

Joy: – exactly. And it doesn’t always have to be about you. You make the card about them, just those little reminders. You know what’s appropriate and what isn’t, when it’s time to put your picture in or not. Yeah it’s a great tool.

Kandas: But those little reminders that remind you of the conversation … you know you may have been having a conversation with a woman, not a man…man those are great shoes… with a card you can remember… I’d love to go shoe shopping with you one day or something. Just that little humor, will make the card more memorable.

Joy: Exactly … exactly.

Kandas: Talk to me a little about why you choose to be a distributor with this company.

Joy: Like I was saying a minute ago … When I saw the doctor I work for, when I saw his reaction to the card and how he knew it could impact his business. I saw the way I personally connected with it…And I just knew that … that was a type of business I wanted to be in. Everything is online. I had been involved with other business where I had a product and I had to deliver a product, and I had to constantly be involved in shows. I needed to have a show …I needed someone to book a show. If that didn’t happen I wasn’t in business. It was a lot of pressure.

I enjoyed the product but it was a lot of pressure to continue it as a business. When I saw that there was an income stream behind these cards, everything was online. They opened their own account. They took care of their own business. I was there for support, but I did not have to be so personally involved that I would have to deliver anything or book a show off of that. It freed me up and I could just see the potential … this was just the perfect way for me…

Kandas: And it’s low cost

Joy: Absolutely

Kandas: The entry level auto-ship is $9.80… and that residual…it’s a beautiful thing that residual. You make a little bit of money on a lot of people, it adds up to a lot of money.

Joy: It’s affordable for everyone no matter what your budget is.

Kandas: Or how many cards you want to send.

Joy: If you’re a business owner, we can custom fit a budget for you and you know what you need to do that month…and months in the future we can help you customize all of that

Kandas: Exactly. Most people send about ten cards a year, but they need to send seventy… and this makes that easy. Thank you for sitting down with me…

Joy: Oh thank you

Kandas: It’s been fun to be able to actually talk about … cards. So I love that we can bounce back ideas …had a great time… Be sure to check the comments or the description below for a link to Joy’s website – – And visit my website

Thanks tuning in to Coffee and Cards Conversation.

V022 Outside the Box Fundraising Ideas for Non-Profits

“What we should be doing in the second half of our life is to be serving the Lord and serving and helping people, taking the talents that we learned in the first half of our lives with our jobs, and using those same talents by serving others. ” – Judy Paine-Marshall

Judy Paine-Marshall is the Director of the Hollis D. Marshall Memorial Scholarship Fund.  Judy shares her outside-the-box fundraising ideas in her Coffee and Cards Conversation.



Transcript (verbatim):

Kandas: Kandas Rodarte here, and it’s almost Christmas time! Look at the beautiful cards that are already coming in. Aren’t they beautiful? Don’t forget, you have until December 13th to get those cards and gifts out.

I am sitting here this morning in Conroe Coffee at 206 North Main next to the Crighton Theatre with Judy Marshall. She is the director of the Hollis D. Marshall memorial scholarship fund, and we’re going to chat today about how to raise money for your nonprofit organization.

So Judy, why did you create the Hollis D. Marshall memorial scholarship fund?

Judy: I created it back in 2001. My late husband, Hollis, passed away, and he had Alzheimers. I had plenty of time to be thinking about what I wanted to do, and my pastor gave me the book that he had just received from Rick Warren, The Purpose Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For? ( Expanded Edition). And then I concurrently had read another book called Halftime: Moving from Success to Significance by Bob Buford.   And both men talk about what we should be doing in the second half of our life is to be serving the Lord and serving and helping people, taking the talents that we learned in the first half of our lives with our jobs, and using those same talents by serving others. And I thought, I want his family and I want his friends to remember him (as) the man that he was, and not the man that passed away. That’s why I set it up.

Kandas: Wow. So tell me about Hollis. What was he like?

Judy: An awesome guy. Quiet, in some ways. Kind, very kind. The best way I can tell you about him is to tell you how we met.

And I was, I went out to the geologic convention out in Los Angeles and was at the Bonaventure Hotel, and I’d had a cycling accident right before I went out and messed up this right shoulder. And so I went down to the Bonaventure Hotel, sat at the counter and I ordered my breakfast, and when it came I was doing this: raising my arm to my mouth trying to feed myself.  And this gentleman on my right he says, “Are you okay? Is there anything I can do for you?”

I was so rude? I didn’t turn around and look at him. I just had my blinders on, and I said, “No, I’m fine.  I had a cycling accident and I messed up my shoulder.”

Less than a minute later, this same gentleman says to me, “Well you don’t look like you’re fine! Can I feed you?”

And with that I turned around. I said, “That’s a good line! You need to keep that one. That got my attention!”

So that’s how we met! And think that pretty well explains Hollis Marshall.

Kandas: I love that story, I love that story.

So switching gears a little bit, tell me how you raise money or how you have raised money in the past for the scholarship fund.

Judy: Well, when Hollis passed away, I had gained so much weight, and I needed to figure out how to put money into the fund and I also needed to lose weight. And so I decided to get on the internet and look for the longest cycling trip that I could find, and I found one that went from L.A. to Boston. And I used to be a cyclist before, well, of course that’s how we met! But I decided that I would cycle, and I’d get people to sponsor me per mile or make a flat donation for the scholarship fund. And I cycled across the United States in 2003, and then I cycled the south island of New Zealand in 2005, and then I cycled across the United States again in 2006, and then I cycled down the east coast from Portland, Maine to Daytona Beach in 2008. So each time all together it’s been a little over $35,000 that I have raised to put into the scholarship fund.

But I’m not as athletic as I used to be, and so I figured I needed another way to fund the scholarship,  and I met this wonderful woman, and she was talking to me about SendOutCards, and I love to send out cards to people for appreciate, for whatever. And she conned me into being her first, one of her first marketing directors. And it’s the best thing that ever happened because I love sending cards and it’s appreciation marketing, but it also, you know, helps put money into the scholarship fund now. So that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Kandas: So those are the ways. Well, how else do you use SendOutCards other than using it to raise money for the scholarship? Do you use it for?

Judy: Oh, absolutely, anytime somebody’s sick, my son has a birthday, I just send him a card with brownies. I used to send him money but I figured I’ll send him SendOutCards and brownies this time.

Kandas: I love it. I love it.

Thank you Judy for being here with me today.

Judy: Thank you!

Kandas: I have really enjoyed this.

Judy: This has been fun!

Kandas: The whole . . . you already know this and now the whole world is going to know that you are one of my favorite people in the whole world.

Judy: Thank you.

Kandas: So I glad you could be here with me today.

Judy: I am glad to be here, it’s been fun. Thank you.

Kandas: So links to Judy’s SendOutCards website will now be in the notes below and probably on the screen, and be sure to visit my website too,

Judy and KandasConnect with Judy Marshall:

Hollis D Marshall Memorial Scholarship Fund Website

Hollis D Marshall Memorial Scholarship Fund on Facebook

Greeting Card Website